Now I have the measure of you and will not be so timid in the future! I bought some Chinese knives at the same time, and had the same sad opinion on their quality. Chris–I tried several kinds of forceps (tweezers). Where do you think the pellet hit? The cartridge, as you can guess, goes on the inside of the upper L block. That is it. Plus, the spent cartridge is going nowhere at all. That is the favorite scene of many a “The Wire” fan. Then about a 100 yards the taller grass and such I can see blowing to the left. SKU. I am often slow to have something gel in my head, but I am unable to make visual sense of the object in the photo. I can get about half the pellets from a 12 shot group in a nice small group but the rest spread out. I have used plumbing washers and short sections of 3/8″ rubber hose to make breech seals, but they don’t last very long. They don’t appear to be as rugged but maybe a little lighter, and I don’t think the Urban really needs heavy duty rings. It’s a .22 bolt action rifle based on a BRNO and CZ gun as I understand it. The strap is .6″ and the mount is .6″. There are other front covers available. I also like the flip-up lens covers, very nice. Additionally, the Stoeger Arms X20S2 Suppressor Air Rifle I bought from PyramydAir Defender Air Rifle 22 Caliber Safety Lock 5.5 All Black 470-570 FPS . No, I read that part, but I can’t figure out how it works or what one shoots at. I wrote my question below before you hit post with your explanation. I hope you don’t mind. Do people think they are unsafe. Sounds to me like the barrel is allowing the pellet to clip the front sight. It verily does stuff in normal mode. Shop for cheap price Chinese Air Rifle B3 700fps Chrono And Competition Shooting Air Rifle .Compare Price and Options of Chinese Air Rifle B3 700fps Chrono And Competition Shooting Air Rifle from variety stores in usa. But it had a bunch of holes all around it that you but blanks in Grom the backside. air rifle pistol gun owners manuals , ... chinese import comparison list airowgun user owner instruction manuals free delivery q & a blog ... b3 b42 replacement sping z trigger mods b1 b2 kl3b . I polished the crown on one from my 1077 parts gun. . BB—Thunder—–Pellet loaders exist. If you have figured it out just ignore this. https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_11mm_to_Weaver_Adapter_Vertical_Scope_Stop_Pin/2401. ( and more importantly I hope I’m right about how it works!). They are too small and are not designed to grip anything. The problem is that they are made of steel, and if the breech snaps shut, they might fly out of the gun in an unpredictable trajectory. Meant for informational purposes only. I’m confused by which order your comments are in so I am reposting that pic with some notations that may help. Maybe you should read. Because of my strong glasses prescription, it’s more like 2″ for me. Oh well that’s how we would do it in the old days. And had no head wind only cross winds on that holdover. I presume some of those are superior in some ways to the vintage B-3 when it was new. You could even hang the drooper mount off the back of the breech for added eye relief adjustment. I don’t know. I did not refresh my view and missed your reply. Our weather here has been bad and I have missed several range days as a result. Did the barrel have rifling. Well I hope you don’t have to put your WildFire under the knife again. Are these an orphan, difficult to service or get serviced? I’m guessing that can only be possible in dead calm conditions. I was actually tempted to suggest single loading the pellets with tweezers because it is what I would have done, were it me, but I was sure that you would think I was nuts for suggesting it and would never take anything I posted seriously in the future. I think I could hit your target, I’m not so sure about GF1’s. I have one of the early B3’s. As fast as I hit a target I was moving to the next and loading the next pellet for the next target as I was moving with the bolt. Should I say yet. What windage hold should I use? They are all real guns. may want to review the link for some rather non-family friendly verbiage and maybe take it down. Very convenient to find my 25 and 30 yard spots when setting out a target. As long as you are shooting you can wait for the rings to arrive and still get the gun and you broke in. How about this. Halfstep Not that it’s the problem. I’m going to post two quick drawings I made of what my reactive target would look like. I believe those will accomplish the need for a closer eye relief and are high too. I am always interested in history of things. I’m thinking that after Geo shoots the Urban he could possibly be selling the 34. That got old real quick. Thanks Yep exactly my thoughts again. I was wondering that. That looks like a good result to me and you arrived at it on your own, which makes it that much sweeter. It’s what I would do in your position. Ok I see you realized that I only posted the picture for Chris. Well the other things too. The “pin”, rides atop the plate. I started to chronograph the pistol with RWS Hobby pellets. That will make the closer shots seem even easier. If you do more accuracy testing I would like to see the results. ; If you would like to contribute to this … However it is also used as an adjective to describe Airsoft guns that have had all the plastic parts replaced with aftermarket metal ones, as in “That’s a real steel airsoft M11” even though it may not all be made of actual steel. I’m just here for the fun of it. I plan to test this rifle in my conventional way and then perhaps I will have a go at tuning it. When the rifle arrived I was not very impressed. When I asked about the Uban’s noise level, she said that she could hear it but that it was not as loud as my other airgun. The breech end of the 1077 gun was better than the original Wildfire barrel and I had already cleaned up the crown on the 1077 so I put it in. People mod their 1077’s so the barrel don’t move in the outer housing. As for Coduece selling targets,… Hey!,… I was first in line! Halfstep The grooves are sharp. Don I’ll make a shot right now and tell you were I hit at 200 yards after you reply with what windage hold you think I should of used. I believe it is the latter since they have a great deal of “pride.”. I read somewhere that the barrels on the Wildfire were improved from the 1077. THIS KIT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE UNDERLEVER B3-1, B3-2 AND B3-4 MODELS MANUFACTURED BY SHANGHAI AIRGUNS (These guns have a spring steel cocking lever clip attached to the barrel). I will upload a picture later. Ok, I just spent the morning on the Wildfire. Does the crossbow from yesterday have some sort of pulley mechanism where you can rest at a certain point on the draw? It was from Europe some where. How much “help” do you have to give it. Thanks, I saved a copy of your spreadsheet screen shot to my Wildfire folder. I shot 5 more into that 1/2″ dot then changed to a fresh target and shot a 10 shot group. Yes I changed barrels. I know they did mine! It is a very good scope for the price and has an adjustable objective. That wouldn’t bother me at all as long as the bolt can be lifted without hitting the scope ring. I need my glasses for close and far distance and wear bifocal lens. Well how about that. I have never heard of a pellet loader for the B3, but one of our readers might like to work with you on your idea. From the results I got, I think I will be giving the crown on my 1077 a look. Slip one up then the other back down in. We are not talking about that. If I were S.Archer and exclusive distributor, I would try to get H.F. to carry the damn things, B3’s that is. BB i have several under lever air rifles like the B3 an B3-1 that u mention i also have several other brands of under lever an all seem to be made the same way , my question is do u know of a pellet loader made for them so your finger is not traped in the bear claw if the lear lets loose when loading a pellet in, or do u know of someone that would be willing to work with me on an idea of a simple one i have a design for . B.B. It was a silhouette of a hand grenade like a feild target. Halfstep First thing I did was check the cylinder indexing in the clip/magazine the one that came with the gun was off to one side. There is a lot of manufacturing oil on the gun which comes off pretty quick and you will be shooting many pellets before the rifle stops smoking. What a coincidence! . Most Chinese air rifles from this era have wood filler in the stock somewhere. The wind is blowing to the right by me out at 50 yards. Your sketches are fine. I have replaced the breech seal with a plumbing washer, several times. Like the B3-1, this rifle shot very accurately. Anyone else have any experience with one. There is a subtle but definite difference in the front sight, as well. I will try a new clip and cylinder tomorrow before I take it apart. I don’t think it is me because I can keep the crosshairs or the dot sight centered and not moving more than a quarter inch from before the trigger pull to after the pellet strikes the target. Geo. The one that holds the piston latch rod/sear/catch (typish thingy). Besides, like you said, that other one you noted used blanks. B.B. Getting a good set of rings that work is the best though. I mostly shot my RWS34 at 20-30 yards and never even tried a longer distance. So at some point it will also need some smoothing up. . thunder. It will stay in the closet now. I would check with PA tech also on the rings. But, you have a magazine. I brought this same thing up before. Just so you know, that green thing is just a Oring that you can put on like a rubberband after the butt plate is fastened back on. I got to thinking that I better check the BKL site. I don’t know if you read my reply to Halfstep but the BKL 30mm offset ring is 2″ long and the strap and mount are each .6″ long. You and Gunfun may both be interested in something that I just saw on a channel that Siraniko linked to above. Very nice. Nick sent this to me several months ago in a box that must have been wrapped in about 1200 feet of clear packing tape. That drives the pin forward into the cartridge. Don’t know if this is the case with many of the 1077 and Wildfire barrels but sure made a difference on my Wildfire. Other than that, it works as intended, is safe and easy to use. Quit talkin’ and get to inventing some stuff! This rifle weighs 7 lbs. Oh and that link I posted can blow up big so you can see things better than the picture like you just posted. I know that you will say that you will be holding on to the forceps, but it will be a light grip to avoid crushing or damaging the pellet. They do this by substituting materials once they get into high rate production. I used some of those roofing nails that have 1″ orange plastic washer on them. The pull is 13.25 inches, which is short for an adult rifle, but still within the acceptable range. The barrels on the 1077 and Wildfire are rifled. I don’t seem to have a problem viewing things in any orientation so I don’t pay attention to it enough. You know what. Mine are 4 5/8″ long or 117 mm. Sorry for the poor pic. Nope. Bill. It will just snap shut, SUPRISE ! Archer Airguns provides replacement QB78 and QB79 instruction manuals for the QB78 and QB79 airguns. I think I paid less than $60 for a Norinco JW15, I think its called. I am leaning towards the BKL offset rings. And I have brought this up in the past. The wind is blowing multiple different ways out to 200 yards. No power, no accuracy, soft steel, horrible machining…I gave the gun away. The webmaster is a collector of Chinese air rifles but does not have all the knowledge about them. Also fits the Tech Force TF34 and TF38 models. I have a question for you. I got my wind flag out at 50 yards. Nor would I collect one. It made not difference in my gun because its accuracy was so bad small improvements did nothing. GF1, Chinese rifles have potential for tuning. This picture is in focus. Using the diagram that I found on line, it seems to have all the springs, in the right places. I don’t think the earliest ones had the anti-beartrap. The B3 front sight is an assembly that has been slipped over the barrel and anchored by a cross pin that’s drilled through the barrel. Yeah, the eye relief is a good inch forward of my normal cheek weld. Page down. Intended to only buy one, but after inspecting them, saw that this was an exceptional bargain; thus, 'my wife' got one, too. Details . Post a picture of your 34 and we can compare the set up to the Urban. I said I thought the gun would be slow, but I had no idea how slow! Come on. It was a much better value at that price than a B3 would have been. Michael I’m not sure how to describe how bad it was. There is a wood block underneath the plate, with 4 drywall screws to set precise elevation of the plate. It’s a slang term used by knowledgeable insiders on lots of topics. i decided to begin with part one of the series and have already gained some insight into how we, as Americans, view regulators in a different light than Brits. I had already owned an FWB 124 before receiving this rifle, so I knew what a good adult air rifle should and could be. Why? It is amazing what difficulties one can encounter when scoping something. B.B. I saw my first B3 advertised in an American Rifleman ad in about 1986. I would risk taking my gun apart again if I thought eliminating a crown issue would make it more accurate. B.B., a google search on “Better is the enemy of good enough,” turned up some interesting results! maybe u know how to reach that company? If it was me that scope and mounts from the 34 would be going on the Urban. But at a hundred it is more true to what I get at 50 yards. George if you have some medium Weaver Rings you could get one of these adapters. I believe I was wrong on the 0.6 offset on the BKL rings. Lighter will allow maximum energy transfer and movement, but may bend. Interesting. ; If you would like to contribute to this … When the gun fired it smoked and smelled like bacon frying. But here’s something for you about size and distance to target with my design. NK here with a quick pellet hack… Ours only got 550 FPS on rare occasions. You won’t have the recoil that you are used to with your springer so as long as you don’t mishandle the gun and bang the scope around it should be fine for you to shoot a little to see what is going to give a good compromise position for bench and off hand shooting. Mucho thanks!!! Not much but some. The guys had to do pull-ups. So yes, at least a slightly higher ring(s) would be in order. It weighs 8#. Simple and solid. I would expect that the maker would cut it away enough to fit almost any scope but it wouldn’t hurt to know for sure if you can find that spec. But if you want to get serious, the QB78 Family Workshop Manual is the ultimate book on the QB78 family. On the other hand, I will be making comparisons, so I still don’t know. But why would your gun not advance the clip like other guns? I suggested the same thing, if for no reason other than to just see how much he needs. I think that is the usual advise even with the anti bear trap feature. 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